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The rumor mill

Okay, time to set the rumor mill to a grinding halt. I'd like to share a few things I've heard in the background, and I'd like for someone to tell me whether they are true. Also, if anyone else has a rumor that they've heard, good or bad, I'd be interested to hear them and how they are addressed.

RUMOR: When a dealer arrived to the loading dock, they were not allowed to use any form of wheeled assistance (i.e. hand truck or dolly cart) to bring their stuff in. hence, a union member had to be the one to handle it.

TRUE OR FALSE: Certain floors in the hotel (like floors under the 5th) were deliberately locked off from the elevators. This caused people to wait for elevators that never came because the switch was turned off for that floor.

RUMOR: When the concession stand in the dealer space ran out of food, they finally allowed us to bring in outside food (hence why I saw Mcdonald's and sub shop food within the conspace).

Also, I was witness to an incident on the 12th floor on Sunday night (those who know understand what I'm talking about). I was wondering what came of that.

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thornwolf
Jun. 21st, 2006 04:03 am (UTC)
You have me curious what this incident was. I wasn't at the con.
thrashbear
Jun. 21st, 2006 04:40 am (UTC)
That's the thing, I only saw this from afar, and to be honest I don't think it's any of my business, I just wanted to insure that the party in question is okay.
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skulldog
Jun. 21st, 2006 04:17 am (UTC)
There was rumor that ended up passing with artists that due to some erorr with the amount of people in the dealers area, all artist were being charged extra for the tables.

The truth, which I later heard from staff, was there was an issue with taxes for dealers, but instead of placing this on the artists, the con itself paid the extra fees.

I also heard the lower number floors being blocked, from many many peoeple who got stuck on 4 in perticular. The pool and gym was there, and I also heard that due to some inconsiderate folks caught smoking there, the stairs where also blocked to the 4th floor.
twitchwolf
Jun. 21st, 2006 05:29 am (UTC)
Confirmed on the smoking, passed a few on the staircase there smoking away.
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dragoncreator
Jun. 21st, 2006 04:37 am (UTC)
I was a dealer and I was allowed to bring in my suitcase which was filled with my table stuff. I was also able to make several trips, which was also originally not going to be allowed.

Alot of the buttons were just not working. I also heard that we broke two elevators. Not sure though.

I don't know exactly what happened with the food. But the second day my friend brought me outside food just because we didn't like what they had. it was stupid that they said we couldn't bring in coffee in the morning, but they would open the consessions till later in the day. Rar.
byzantyndragon
Jun. 21st, 2006 05:36 am (UTC)
The doors to the lower hotel floors were all locked on the second stairwell, but unlocked on the other side, but since I didn't know that it meant a lot of extra climbing/descending when the elevators were too busy. This resulted in my straining my leg and having to miss a dance and the fursuit games to keep mobile. I made it through that okay. I chalk it up to experience.
giza
Jun. 21st, 2006 05:36 am (UTC)
> TRUE OR FALSE: Certain floors in the hotel (like floors under the 5th) were
> deliberately locked off from the elevators. This caused people to wait for
> elevators that never came because the switch was turned off for that floor.

AFAIK, no floors were "locked off" from elevators. HOWEVER, we were told that the elevators have weight sensors, and when they detect that they are full, they will not stop at floors which call them until passengers are first discharged. If people load up on the lobby, then it is logical that many of the passengers will still be on the elevator on that point.

> RUMOR: When the concession stand in the dealer space ran out of food, they
> finally allowed us to bring in outside food (hence why I saw Mcdonald's and
> sub shop food within the conspace).

This is news to me, especially since our contract says otherwise.

> Also, I was witness to an incident on the 12th floor on Sunday night (those
> who know understand what I'm talking about). I was wondering what came of
> that.

That is still being investigated. If you or anybody else witnessed it, please send details of what you saw to anthrocon.2006 (AT) anthrocon.org so we can better understand the situation.

saturniakitty
Jun. 21st, 2006 01:24 pm (UTC)
AFAIK, no floors were "locked off" from elevators. HOWEVER, we were told that the elevators have weight sensors, and when they detect that they are full, they will not stop at floors which call them until passengers are first discharged. If people load up on the lobby, then it is logical that many of the passengers will still be on the elevator on that point.
This happened at Katsucon one year. I was stuck on the 3rd floor for over an hour because the stairs were also blocked.
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xianjaguar
Jun. 21st, 2006 06:31 am (UTC)
RUMOR: When a dealer arrived to the loading dock, they were not allowed to use any form of wheeled assistance (i.e. hand truck or dolly cart) to bring their stuff in. hence, a union member had to be the one to handle it.

True. If you used the LOADING DOCK, you HAD to let the Union People wheel your stuff in. You were not allowed to do it yourself, FROM THE LOADING DOCK. I have to put emphasis on "the Loading Dock", because that's where the confusion is. I used the loading dock, and had to wait for the two union workers to unload my stuff from the loading dock to my table.

If you went in THROUGH THE DEALER'S DOOR from the lobby, you were allowed to wheel in one suitcase plus whatever else you could carry in your hands. You weren't supposed to make multiple trips, but no one counted noses, so it was 'allowed' in the sense that the staff looked the other way.

TRUE OR FALSE: Certain floors in the hotel (like floors under the 5th) were deliberately locked off from the elevators. This caused people to wait for elevators that never came because the switch was turned off for that floor.

False. Floors were not purposely 'locked off' from elevators. The weight sensor thing that Giza mentioned makes sense. The elevator rarely stopped on the 18th floor, so if I wanted to go 'down', I pushed the 'up' button, rode the elevator up, THEN down to the lobby.

RUMOR: When the concession stand in the dealer space ran out of food, they finally allowed us to bring in outside food (hence why I saw Mcdonald's and sub shop food within the conspace).

That I don't know, but I DO know this: Almost everyone snuck food in. We're too poor to pay those outrageous concession stand prices, and we dealers HAVE to eat. So, snacks were snuck in so we didn't drop dead of hunger.
animakitty
Jun. 21st, 2006 08:33 am (UTC)
Yep,
When I saw that the cheeseburger (The cheaper burger of two) was seven dollars, I twitched. When I saw the pathetic burger they gave me for my seven dollars, a small part of me died. :KD

At least their hotdogs were the size of flashlights.
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primarylupine
Jun. 21st, 2006 07:44 am (UTC)
You end up buried on a horse farm somewhere in Michigan. Or under Giants stadium.

If you want to move your own stuff, and you have, say, 10 things to carry, find 10 people that need a con badge or something.
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kai_dog
Jun. 21st, 2006 04:23 pm (UTC)
I heard rumors that some people were using kitty litters in their room(s). Anyone else hear that? I hope it's false!
thrashbear
Jun. 21st, 2006 04:57 pm (UTC)
What purpose would kitty litter serve in a hotel room? And even if it's true, what's the big deal?
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vulgaris
Jun. 21st, 2006 08:21 pm (UTC)
As for the "Food" thing, I definetly heard at least once a Dorsai say, "You really can't have that here. You aren't allowed to have any non-convention sold food inside the convention."

I had a bigass thing of trail mix on my artist alley table the entire time and no one said anything to me. Then again if they had I'd have just been like "Yeah I bought that trail mix here. All of it. Want some?" I mean really how are they going to tell the difference between their hamburger and a hamburger from another establishment. Do you seriously think they would be like "NO U R LYING THAT IS NOT OUR HAMBURGER".

Man, now I kinda wish someone had.... Hah.

Honestly I think just about everything went off well for what it was.
I really have no complaints.
taren_
Jun. 21st, 2006 11:42 pm (UTC)
I believe the rule was that no outside food was allowed in the dealer room. I went up to the CC with a BIG YELLOW BOTTLE of Gatorade in my hand, right past The Mean Lady (you know who she is if you went), and she didn't say anything. So you could have it anywhere, basically, until you stepped into "the marketplace". That's how it went for me; your mileage may have varied.
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arcturax
Jun. 22nd, 2006 01:09 am (UTC)
Rumor 1: I don't know about that for sure, but I do know there was a lot of kvetching about the Union. Unions aren't all bad, they are still necessary in some lines of work. My dad is part of a union where he works and even does work for them on a volunteer basis and you wouldn't believe some of the things the company tries to do to the workers despite the union being around. I've been a member myself of the United Food and Commercial workers union back in the late 90's when I worked retail. They protected me from retribution from a manager who I stood up to when they tried to unfairly and illegally humilitate me in front of customers. So yeah, unions do have a purpose. I know the rules with these guys might seem strange but they are there to work and the con is paying for it. So long as the con remains solvent, it shouldn't be a problem right? As for removing them, see what happens then... Illegals take your job and such and companies do things like give themselves the right to fire people for even arbitrary reasons. Work any office type job and the company even claims to own anything you invent. Makes me wish computer programmers would form unions. So yeah, until you've been in a union and understand why they exist, lay off em, ok? Even Kage said they were very reasonable during AC 2005 closing ceremonies.

Rumor 2: Lots of the elevators were damaged by over loading and by people acting up on them. I also saw a bunch of people turning around the arrows on the 3rd floor Sunday night so it looked like up was down and such. Me and another fur put them back the way they should be before the hotel staff saw it and put down a black mark against the con. I also got into an elevator in costume on floor 25 only to find someone had hit most of the buttons. I hope whoever did that knows how fucking hot it is stuck in an elevator in fursuit for 15 minutes because they think doing that is funny. So any problems with the elevators and stairs was caused by less than mature members of the con who should not be allowed out in public unsupervised.

Rumor 3: No idea about this one.

Bonus round: I was in the elevator when a bunch of Dorsai got into it alons with a guy on a phone (who wasn't Dorsai) who was loudly saying, "Wow, I hope that doesn't ruin the reputation of the con". As for what happened, it's none of my buisiness and is between whoever it happened to and the con and those who were there or had to deal with the situaton.
stahi
Jun. 22nd, 2006 03:19 am (UTC)
You must've been in a different elevator than I. I saw someone push about four buttons in rapid procession and all the buttons shut off each time. As for the elevators being "locked" I'm not sure, but I did witness the buttons on the 10th & 14th floors refusing to stay lit after being pushed.
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unclekage
Jun. 22nd, 2006 01:23 pm (UTC)
What might or might not have been in the young lady's system is not our affair.

In the end, we received an apology from her boyfriend (though I've not yet heard from her personally), and I have made it clear that I do not want to be troubled by such an occurrence again.
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